A THREAD REGARDING A MAP.

so i offered to make a map a while ago to psyche and the feedback i got through him from various people was generally "yeah cool"

i have acquired the .vmf for rp_lakeland and i've been told you guys have permission to edit it, although from prior experience i know i suck pretty hard at editing other people's maps and keeping style & quality completely consistent.

I'd happily try starting one from scratch if i can get a big ol' list of things you guys would want in it written up and agreed on, along with references for visual styles and stuff and layouts where possible. I'll still need a big ol' list of what you want adding/changing to lakeland if you choose that.

all of this will have to wait till i've finished my map for Kodu however, so that leaves plenty of time for planning and shit.

Well what exactly is your concept of a "New map," it's such a vague way to put it. For all I know it could be a map consisting of two small deserted islands sitting on either side of a sea with a wall made of Wallace Breens in the center.

I figure editing lakeland, it'd take far less time and Oskutin's working on his next medieval map so going to the effort for a whole new map seems somewhat pointless at this stage. And yeah, what Xeloras said, imo pretty much everyone is gonna vote for a new map because it's equally as easy for them to say "new map!" as opposed to simply adding on to a map we already have.

We got the lakeland VMF with permission to edit it, why waste it?

MrClean had a map already in development, but he is often restricted with time, so I wanted there to be no pressure for him.

If anybody remembers the thread I made entitled rp_medievallol, showing pictures of a medieval map in development, you will be happy to know that Kali was the one to work on that map, his work being far from sub par.

Don't get me wrong, I have seen Kali's stuff and I'm not at all doubting how good he is, it's just that with maps already in development do we need another one added to those already on their way as opposed to quickfixing (more or less) a map we have permission to edit until these new releases do come out?

Edit: Had to go back to that old thread to be reminded but I do recall having my balls blown of at seeing them castle screenies.

We could use an edited Lakeland at first, and then over time make a new map to fit more to the communities wants for buildings and homes. Wouldn't have to be fast, but everyone could give a say on what kind of homes would be nice in the maps, and what kinds of building, and so on.

Edited lakeland, go

I'd say optimizing Lakeland so it can be used temporarily without anyone complaining about lag, don't get me wrong, Oskutins stuff is great but it generally has bad optimization.

I've never seen or heard of any problems with lag in Oskutin's map.

Ever.

I think he's referring to the Jitteriness that happens eventually and takes a map restart to get rid of.

That's not a problem with the map, happend on mountain too, probably something server related.

No, if I remember right Oskutin has alot of holes in his maps, generally.

If you're gonna edit Lakeland, PLEASE GET RID OF THE GODAWFUL SPAWN. If two players spawn at remotely the same time, you both get stuck. That sucks some abnormally sized phallus. Thank you.

I don't see why we need a new map in the first place.

Lakeland is an awful map.

We are definitely not going to be using it for very long, so why bother editting it?

rp_mountainvillage suits all of our needs and has a night variant.

I'm sorry but Lakeland just can't compare.

wait wait wait

so people are saying they don't want a new map instead of an edited lakeland, because;

1. it's TOO EASY for us to say "new map" instead of "edit old one",
2. people are already working on OTHER MAPS, (THAT ARE NOT DEDICATED TO OLDEN'S NEEDS)


that's just.. wow.

seriously, i'm going to say make a new map, where we list the things we want in it.
because god knows, if we have a map tailored to our roleplay, made by a good mapper, it's going to be 400^4 times better than any other map that some random guy just smacked together for general roleplay purposes.

and since kali feels that editing lakeland is something that he quite isn't the best at, then i say don't edit it.

and really, everybody hates lakeland.

Psycheandromida wrote:

I've never seen or heard of any problems with lag in Oskutin's map.

Ever.

it's not lag, it's framerate.

oskutin sucks humongous amounts of dick at optimisation, remember rp_year1595?

when you went over to the smaller island and looked at the main island, your fps would drop like a motherfucker, even more so if people had anything spawned over there.

Osk isn't "some random guy". Every map we've used has been one of his and we actually did collaborate with him on mountain village via a thread and having people join up the incomplete map to give suggestions and whatnot.

Rutabega wrote:

Osk isn't "some random guy". Every map we've used has been one of his and we actually did collaborate with him on mountain village via a thread and having people join up the incomplete map to give suggestions and whatnot.

That's not collaborating, that's giving suggestions.

Kali, you should just do a new map entirely. I've seen lakeland in hammer editor, no result is worth sorting through that.

This is beyond a vote, really. We're going to need a new map, period. Lakeland makes some people disconnect or crash, and kills one's frame rate worse than other maps. That, and we may need to move in the future, so it'd be better to have something ready rather than spruce up a map we might abandon later on, anyway.

I agree that we need a new map, but for the time being couldn't we switch back to a map like forestvillage?

LawnJesus wrote:

I agree that we need a new map, but for the time being couldn't we switch back to a map like forestvillage?

i say stick with mountainvillage until the new one is done. forestvillage was a framerate rape beyond repair.

I miss forestvillage ;-;
I still remember the whole map.

I wouldn't mind switching back to any of the previous maps. I'm just kinda tried of the framerape.

Yeah uh, let's stick to mountainvillage k?