Thoughts on Applications?

Berry [ GeoWulf]: Applications.
Psyche: Ah yes applications.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: I, just recently, today
Berry [ GeoWulf]: popped in some rules
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and regulations
Berry [ GeoWulf]: for apps
Berry [ GeoWulf]: What we need to do
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: I liked those.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: is get EVERYONE
Berry [ GeoWulf]: EVVVEERRYYYOONEEE
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Who has ANYTHING
Berry [ GeoWulf]: to apply
Berry [ GeoWulf]: for everything they have
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Applications
Apply for pretty much everything here. Not including factions.[Note: Auto-Prune is on. If a topic is not replied to in this section for at-least 7 days, it will be removed.][Note: ANY and EVERYTHING that you have or wish to have/obtain requires a detailed application!]
Berry [ GeoWulf]: So this is what it looks like now
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Show them to this thread
Berry [ GeoWulf]: http://aeria.omgforum.net/applications-f5/please-start-posting-applications-t751.htm
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Okay...
Berry [ GeoWulf]: http://aeria.omgforum.net/applications-f5/application-rulings-t747.htm And these are the rulings
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: And this is all like the old one?
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Are we making it more strict?
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: Communism!
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It's much more strict
Berry [ GeoWulf]: yes
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Everything has to be applied for
Zaku350: Good.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Even stuff you get ICly
Psyche: Well
Psyche: If you ask me, I'm gunna give a bold statement
Psyche: Kill them again. Applications are bad.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Reasons?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We need them, though
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Because now
Berry [ GeoWulf]: People aren't applying.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: At all.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They'rej ust.. Getting stuff.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: And we aren't seeing it.
Zaku350: This is true.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We NEED apps.
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: Yeah..
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well, thing is...
Psyche: If you have to apply to be Jesus-loli, without roleplaying for it, you obviously don't don't deserve it.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Apps are neglected anyway.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: I don't neglect them
Berry [ GeoWulf]: The admins never neglected them
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: And anyway, the thing is.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: What if someone recieves something OP such as...
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Drakeson's Dick Blade?
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: If they were denied...
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Then they power it down
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well, where would the blade go?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They power it down
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Or they get rid of it.
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: Yeah..
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Ah, but then this applications business would benefit the members who actually learnt the ENGLISH DICTIONARY
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: It wouldn't really be fair...
Berry [ GeoWulf]: i'll put that in the rules
Berry [ GeoWulf]: as far as denial
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: The new players might recieve a good sword with some powers, and then make a shit app
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Like lemon said
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We need to be strict
Berry [ GeoWulf]: so they make a shit app
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If they're trusted
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They'l lbe accepted
Psyche: The members who learned the english dictionary should actually ROLEPLAY instead of asking to be god
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If they're responsible
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They'll be accepted
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: So it's an issue of trust here?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It is
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It always will be
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: Im glad ive made an impact
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Never was back in the day.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If someone's trusted on a good enough level to be given this
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Then they're certain not to abuse it
Psyche: If that was the Case Geo, Richard wouldn't have much accepted applications
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: True, but there is more cons then pros
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: Doesnt matter about cons and pros
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well, it really does.
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: Its about the server overall ands its wellbeing
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: ands?
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: We'll have to run this past the community anyway.
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: and*
Psyche: My beef with applications is that, stated before by several admins, obtaining your powers through roleplay make them more effective...
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Yes, but it wasn't like this before
Berry [ GeoWulf]: But if they obtain it through roleplay
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Thank you Psyche.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: What happens is this:
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They get their powers, and they don't know how they work.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: >+>
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: You usually apply after you get the power
Berry [ GeoWulf]: So they abuse them.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It happened with Naiko.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Pah, Naiko is a fag
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It happened with Kard.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It happened with Kain.
Zaku350: It happens with alot of people.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It happened with Thorn.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: And now what do we have
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Superpowered people
Berry [ GeoWulf]: The main complaint of nowadays.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well Thorn is just and will be... Thorn
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: And...
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Where would we be if not for superpowered people?
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: I cant stay awake
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: I need to get up early and continue my work
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: If everyone was a plebian, it would be rather dull.
Lemon-5th day of work/model work: Night
Psyche: Well, call me a troll but Thorn and Kard are better roleplayers than the people that spammed applications, forgetting the fact that they're both actually poor roleplayers themselves for a moment.
Psyche: AT least they ROLEPLAYED while getting their powers?
Psyche: I'll get a sex change when Richard earsn an ability
Psyche: instead of LOL CAN I HAS GOD
Lemon-5th day of work/model work left chat.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Thorn is like... The god of stupid RP though... Anyway
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Tendrils, for fucks sake?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If they apply for a god
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Rather than Getting it icly
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Theres a fine line between power and overpower.
Psyche: I don't care, he's pleasant to roleplay with at times
Berry [ GeoWulf]: But with these ruoles
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They can't spam apps.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It's not possible.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: The thins i
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: thing is*
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Because it's an aching pain to apply
Psyche: Too bad this rule is being enforced after applications were spammed?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: So it discourages them from applying, unless they REALLY want it.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We're nerfing, though
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Spellplague, and personal nerfs
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Do you think admins will be treated specially? I think some-one will crack
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Nope.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Notice here: "
Admins are NOT discluded of this! ONLY HEAD ADMINISTRATORS."
Berry [ GeoWulf]: big bold letters
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: I realised.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Head administrators are the peoplew ho run events
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If they have to apply for their events
Berry [ GeoWulf]: What happens?
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Yes, but say... Someone who was an admin applied for god, and then someone else applied, you would think of the admin to be better trusted, right?
Psyche: People flaming Drako all over again
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: As he is an admin...
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Not really
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Besides
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well, most people do.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Gods are admin only
Berry [ GeoWulf]: >_>
Berry [ GeoWulf]:
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: Hmh..
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Johnny's an exception because he does it responsibly
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: rofl
Berry [ GeoWulf]: He always has
Berry [ GeoWulf]: been good with this kind of this
Berry [ GeoWulf]: thing*
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Johnny is trusted :p
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Of course he is
Psyche: No
Berry [ GeoWulf]: He's been trusted from back at Desertia
Psyche: Not trusted
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: But really... The erm...
Psyche: that's a terrible choice of words
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Applications are kinda, stupid.
Psyche: Thing is, he's actually a GOOD roleplayer.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We're going off topic
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Now, the thing is
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Great great, let's get back to the point
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We -need- applications
Berry [ GeoWulf]: The adins thought on this
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and it's become realy really bad
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Because withotu applications
Berry [ GeoWulf]: You have people getting abilities
Berry [ GeoWulf]: that they either;
Berry [ GeoWulf]: 1. Don't know how the fuck to use
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: >:v
Berry [ GeoWulf]: 2. Getting them without knowledge of the admins
Berry [ GeoWulf]: or superiors
Berry [ GeoWulf]: 3. Abusing them
Berry [ GeoWulf]: 4. Or the powers being so overpowered that they're bullshit
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Applications would cut those out
Berry [ GeoWulf]: becuase they can apply
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and we can offer suggetions
Berry [ GeoWulf]: if they aren't just about right
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Wit hthe spellplague
Berry [ GeoWulf]: things wil lbe a bit confusing
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Pat's been weaving his spells
Berry [ GeoWulf]: That's a part of the Plague
Berry [ GeoWulf]: It actualyl takes time
Berry [ GeoWulf]: concentration
Berry [ GeoWulf]: focus
Berry [ GeoWulf]: all that
Psyche: Last time I suggested on applications, people thought I was a troll.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: to cast a spell
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Yes, the only thing i'm worried about is the TRUST issue.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: But, yeah, applications might be bad
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Nothing else.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: but we've decided they're really needed because otherwise
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We lose track of what people can do
Berry [ GeoWulf]: or have
God of Rape, Lolis, and /b/: Chaos~
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and then it becomes a flurry of chaos, exactly
Psyche: No, applications ARE bad. The fact we need them only makes them worse
Berry [ GeoWulf]: They're only a record
Berry [ GeoWulf]: I've always said:
Berry [ GeoWulf]: "Apply, because they're mostly for reference"
Psyche: The only difference now is that newfags have overpowered characters, they're just not asking for them.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Exactly
Berry [ GeoWulf]: And that can't be fixed
Berry [ GeoWulf]: WE've tried to fix it
Berry [ GeoWulf]: but it doesn't work
Psyche: Which also is why I don't go on that much
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If we make people apply
Berry [ GeoWulf]: for everything they have
Berry [ GeoWulf]: or will have
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We keep track
Berry [ GeoWulf]: of What they have
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and ultimately
Berry [ GeoWulf]: We know
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Who has what
Berry [ GeoWulf]: I've gotten very angry recently that i didn't know some things abotu people
Berry [ GeoWulf]: And I went and messed up things
Psyche: And if they abuse the powers anyways? I mean take this into consideration, when I use Marius, people with completely new characters ALWAYS shit-talk to me, know why?
Berry [ GeoWulf]: because i had no, freaking idea >:\
Berry [ GeoWulf]: If they abuse the powers they get warned
Psyche: Well because they thought they could take my character, whom I spent time to develope, in a fight.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: But hardly anyone develops characters responsibly. :\
Psyche: Either they have no chance of fighting me in reality, they will compalin, but if I play with their powergame play, I get pummeled
Psyche: EXACTLY
Psyche: BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH IT
Berry [ GeoWulf]: So what are we to do.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Let people get powerful
Berry [ GeoWulf]: And not even know
Berry [ GeoWulf]: that they're getting powerful
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and how powerful?
Psyche: Powerful enough to overthrow the people who deserver their spot in the "power chain"
Psyche: We might aswell enforce applications with strict rules, at least now we'd know about the,
Berry [ GeoWulf]: so what should we do.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Well you called the meeting.
Psyche: Applications can't make anything worse then it is now, and if the admins really enforce the rules, it could work.

We need help deciding what to do.

Have applications, enforce applications, and for gods sake don't be afraid to deny people shit.

That way a character with fifty bazillion stupid powers doesn't get another ridiculous power.

Also, maybe set up a guideline to applications to streamline them. (Example: Powers must have a reasonable weakness, not "Oh, he can be hurt, but only if you approach him from the left on a moonless night while eating a piece of cheese and smearing your feet in tartar sauce"

I told you on SF, that there is a fine line where the rules are not too strict, and not too... "fragile".
Total control will never work. It never has, and never will, and the same with no control.
So, my suggestion is:
Applications for major things, such as magical powers, trinkets of magic, etc.
The minor things, such as a dagger or a sword, should not be applied for, seeing as that can happen at any time, and it would be a pain in the ass to apply for a simple sword.

Haha, and you even pop in a bit of good humor.

That's a good idea, one of the thoughts we could use.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Silent. Yeah, your ideas are good too!

The thought that we need to enforce a bit more too is also another thing we have yet to fix.

Well, as I said in the meeting, applications are about trust and respect.

Admins will most likely in the end, be treated more fairly than new members.

Nuff said.

I got nothin.



Do I have to apply for anything I applied for in the past? (or that Pat directly ICly taught me or had someone else teach?)

GeoWulf wrote:

Berry [ GeoWulf]: Applications.
Berry [ GeoWulf]: I, just recently, today
Berry [ GeoWulf]: popped in some rules
Berry [ GeoWulf]: and regulations
Berry [ GeoWulf]: for apps
Berry [ GeoWulf]: What we need to do
Berry [ GeoWulf]: is get EVERYONE
Berry [ GeoWulf]: EVVVEERRYYYOONEEE
Berry [ GeoWulf]: Who has ANYTHING
Berry [ GeoWulf]: to apply
Berry [ GeoWulf]: for everything they have


Psyche: Applications can't make anything worse then it is now, and if the admins really enforce the rules, it could work.

Yeah, there's nothing bad about applications. Really, the apps allow mods and admins to look over a character and decide whether or not his/her abilities or equipment are getting way out of line in terms of fairness. If anyone was to say, APPS R BAD, K?, it would be those who wouldn't benefit from the apps coming back. Good quote there, Psyche

I also think what Geo said, quoted here, is a good idea. We could expand on it?

Stuff archive...?(magic too)
I mean, we can do this is a sort of one time thing..
But a stuff archive would do better.
(one for every ooc person, otherwise... Shit hits tha fan)

Aright, whoever said control never works is right. But apps aren't about control, they're about management and guidance more than anything. They have worked pretty well in my own community- There, we use not only an application system, but also an upgrade system, along with a paranormal ranking system, all in conjunction. It helps to keep things in check. In addition, we divide up characters into main and side characters, and limit the potential of side characters so things don't spiral out of hand (you only get 2 mains, which contains the unlimited potential bit a little better).

Keep apps. People will hate making them. I -really- hate making them. But keep and enforce them, for the greater good, because they are, as Geo said, extremely important toward keeping track of people, and in a server where powerplay is extremely easy to accomplish, you really want to keep track of players. And remember: be strict, but gentle. When you see something that makes you want to outright say -NO-, do so politely, then offer suggestions or alternatives.

(Sidenote on powerplay: Sometimes a character, at a certain moment, is just meant to shine. And maybe, sometimes, you should let them. Seriously. Everyone can't be the fucking star at the same time, so let the spotlight go around and give everyone a chance. *huff*)

As for the super-powered people... eh, being one of them, I gotta tell you I'd hate to lose all my stuff. I've already agreed to using it lightly and staying out of people's way most of the time. I usually rely on basic skills to get by, anyhow.

Speak to each OP'd person individually, and I'm sure you can work something out. As for me, Geo is watching over me, so rest assured that I won't do any aboos. :3

Well, I might give Pat some aboos. And Donixs. And Zaku.. but I'll do that OOCly....

Phoenix has a great system, but in a community like this with a lot of players, I think it would fall to chaos and disorganization. Simply having apps, on the other hand, like we've done with Desertia recently, isn't a bad idea. Because yeah, it keeps track of people, and it prevents any misunderstandings or surprise ass-pulls.

I think it would be better, to make an ap, if the char has anything that uses magick, is a wepond, or is just special[Including Themselves(Not You Zaku, Not Special)]
Like say, If a Char could make potions, They'd have to explain how, and what they use. If it's common items, like food, water, soda,(Ect. on drinks), they would just type in them.
But IF it was something special, like a werewolf's tooth, Dragon Blood, or just wierd things, they should explain how they got them[Buying, Killing, Found it, Ect.]
ESPECIALLY if its something from the future. You have to explain how, you could possibly[POSSIBLY], take hold of a futuristic object in olden, where we try to 'Olden' RP D:

Ok, my opinion? We need applications, because we DO, else it becomes a shitfest.

BUT.

There should only be applications for any major power, ability, equipment, and the like. If you want your character to have like, steel full armor, maybe some minor magic, some alchemy, whatever.

HOWEVER.

Applications should be limited to 1, only 1 per character. Not 2, not 4, 1. 1 that can not be changed, further skills must be adquired, and learned, in character. Why, what does this avoid? Well, for one, motherfucking soul taking sword swinging, death defeating, demon form sporting vampires who can kill hordes with a blink and a kiss.

To put it simple, applications should be kept only for abilities and skills that can not possibly be adquired in game through means of learning, training, morphing, and otherwise. Why yes, you can become very strong by having applied for one major skill, and learning the rest after months of training. But in those cases, you deserve it, and it proves by action that you're a good RPer and won't abuse them.

Oh, and make sure the ability in question isn't a chekhov's gun. Or else, bad shit could happen.

ALSO.

I consider magic to be one of the things most overpowered, but I don't think the solution is making spells take more magic, or things like that. Magic is literally the epithome of pulling guns out of your ass. But it makes an excellent addition to things not combat related. What simply needs to be done is to make people register their offensive spells, kind of like an application, but more like a registry.

This registry idea may also work as in such a fashion where your character has only a limited amount of spells to choose from, maybe even a scoring system, higher score meaning taking extra spots. What would be the catch from this? You could get people to use only spells approved by the general public, while still allowing experimentation and variations by using applications. I may develop this later.

I agree with a lot of Kam's points and I think they've been made well.

I do think it helps to have one ability you've app'd for, as this makes everyone sort of equal and I'd personally enjoy RP more if I was actually worth something. The idea that the rest of the abilities are trained or learned IC is probably the thing I want to support most. We need more of this type of passive-esque RP, cause right now it's a case of the aforementioned super chars walking around with their four or five abilities, looking for some poor fool to blink at the wrong time and they'll pounce like a PK-hungry cougar. Basically, all Olden's becoming is a fighting ground where people's egos clash.

Perhaps, concerning magic we could adopt the type of magic they have in the Eragon books? If you've never read them, it's the way that using magic takes it out of you depending on how adept you are - and attempting a spell that is beyond your skill/power level would destroy you. This would limit people from spamming lightning bolts (you know who you are) because they'd get knackered by the end of it.

Kruggly wrote:

Perhaps, concerning magic we could adopt the type of magic they have in the Eragon books? If you've never read them, it's the way that using magic takes it out of you depending on how adept you are - and attempting a spell that is beyond your skill/power level would destroy you. This would limit people from spamming lightning bolts (you know who you are) because they'd get knackered by the end of it.

That's another catch to the Spellplague.

That was what I had hoped. Bring it on, night nurse.

GeoWulf wrote:

Kruggly wrote:

Perhaps, concerning magic we could adopt the type of magic they have in the Eragon books? If you've never read them, it's the way that using magic takes it out of you depending on how adept you are - and attempting a spell that is beyond your skill/power level would destroy you. This would limit people from spamming lightning bolts (you know who you are) because they'd get knackered by the end of it.

That's another catch to the Spellplague.

What I don't like is that things are gonna take more. That really, REALLY, weakens magic.

My idea is that, instead of that, you should just make ALL magic generate the same effect than created to it's user. Put it this way.

You make a fire bolt, so you fire it at someone. That fire bolt, while not only taking energy from you, it will also do the exact amount of damage the fire bolt did at that someone, to yourself.

AKA, Newton's third law. For a force there is always an equal and opposite reaction. What would this imply? That magicians would require equipment too, much like how warriors need swords and armor, magicians are gonna need armors and channelling staffs.

Why armors? To reduce the effect a casted spell does on you when you fire it. These armors should be made of light metals and special fabrics, and should provide little to no protection to melee attacks. So if you fire an ice bolt, and you're wearing good armor, you shouldn't tire out (Due to damage) unlike when having no armor.

And why staffs? Well, lets put it this way. If you're firing something forward, and we say it has to generate an action on you, well, the bolt would hypothetically fire you back, kind of like recoil. Recoil should be much more manageable if you have for example a staff held with both hands.

GeoWulf wrote:

Berry [ GeoWulf]: It happened with Naiko.
Jack @ KrugFM.co.uk: Pah, Naiko is a fag

Fuck you too, Jack.

Kam, I hate to say it but that's got to be a little too far. I personally think that we should limit it to the Spellplague level and leave it there. It looks like you're acting on your own personal vendetta for magic, and you're taking it a bit over the top.

Newton didn't have fantasy or magic in mind when he came up with the third law - the only magicians in his time pulled birds out of boxes. Therefore, I don't think such laws apply to magic, let alone Olden. I mean, it's a good suggestion, but it 1) nerfs magic that little bit more than it should, and 2) does magic really count as 'a force'?.

Perhaps some of the very powerful offensive spells could have a bit of a backblast, requiring some form of protection - but to have that for every spell is a little much.

Equipment should just act as some kind of chanelling device if you can't manifest magic yourself, if anything, and I think the whole idea of recoil comes with magic anyway - unless you've got no sense of cinematic value and think magic just jumps out with no kind of recoil / kickback.

Either way...
I don't want battle mages running around.

Running around, or running around owning everyone? (cause none of my chars attack unless provoked =D (and Edward was super-pissed at what that one guy (he knows who he is) did to Izzy! )

You two not contributing ideas to our lovely discussion? K.

Personally I agree with Psyche :>

kamaitama wrote:

GeoWulf wrote:

Kruggly wrote:

Perhaps, concerning magic we could adopt the type of magic they have in the Eragon books? If you've never read them, it's the way that using magic takes it out of you depending on how adept you are - and attempting a spell that is beyond your skill/power level would destroy you. This would limit people from spamming lightning bolts (you know who you are) because they'd get knackered by the end of it.

That's another catch to the Spellplague.

What I don't like is that things are gonna take more. That really, REALLY, weakens magic.

My idea is that, instead of that, you should just make ALL magic generate the same effect than created to it's user. Put it this way.

You make a fire bolt, so you fire it at someone. That fire bolt, while not only taking energy from you, it will also do the exact amount of damage the fire bolt did at that someone, to yourself.

AKA, Newton's third law. For a force there is always an equal and opposite reaction. What would this imply? That magicians would require equipment too, much like how warriors need swords and armor, magicians are gonna need armors and channelling staffs.

Why armors? To reduce the effect a casted spell does on you when you fire it. These armors should be made of light metals and special fabrics, and should provide little to no protection to melee attacks. So if you fire an ice bolt, and you're wearing good armor, you shouldn't tire out (Due to damage) unlike when having no armor.

And why staffs? Well, lets put it this way. If you're firing something forward, and we say it has to generate an action on you, well, the bolt would hypothetically fire you back, kind of like recoil. Recoil should be much more manageable if you have for example a staff held with both hands.

Do you even know what the effects of the spellplague are. :\