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PostSubject: Re: Zaku's Envisionment | The Next 'Olden'   Zaku's Envisionment | The Next 'Olden' - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 04, 2009 1:02 pm

That being said, Richard, you should have to Apply again for your Dragoon/Dragonkin half-breed, and Richard.

I still stand strong on EVERYONE re-applying. Even myself. For more the one reason.
We need to catch these OverPowered Apps that we didn't before. And with Admins just going through the applications and just "BAM- Denied" people are going to bitch. We need the whole community to decide what should be accepted, and what shouldn't. And hell, now that everyone has to re-apply this time around we atleast know they don't, or do deserve it.
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First of all: I'm playing Edward for Zen. That's all I have to say about him that's objecting to that.

And when is that thread with the IC explenation of how we went back to Surna going up? As well as some
other stuff that's coming back.

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MUST KNOW MORE OF THESE THINGS!!!
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Mystra's dead, killed and thus brought the spell-plaque. Something I honestly would like to keep, and playing a character for somone really doesn't matter. You should still apply for him, I don't know about Dragoons, but an application is required for Dragonkin. (I know, I was the one that made them in the first place. Geo never gave me credit. Sad )
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PostSubject: Re: Zaku's Envisionment | The Next 'Olden'   Zaku's Envisionment | The Next 'Olden' - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 04, 2009 1:41 pm

I still stand with Zaku on the re-app matter.

Also I fix'd the triple poast. Please refrain from doing it again.
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No, re apping isn't necessary. I already said (People seem to ignore me Sad ) that a too radical move will result in unsatisfactory results due to the people not expecting or not agreeing.

What you people should take care first, is the most fundamental parts of the whole damn thing, the admins thing, the election thing. It sounds contradictory to actually make decisions like this without even following what we're saying.

So let me tripost my proposition.

AS FOR COMMUNITY DECISIONS:

They must be VOTED. Let's make a democracy here, that's the most flexible political system on real life, so, why can't it work here too? Let everyone have their EQUAL say.

On the topic of flexibility. Flexibility is crucial, you can NOT enforce strict rules. Everything should be subject to doubting, to asking, and to possible reforming. One of the biggest examples is the sex rule, which is not always obvious, due to how each one interprets what "sex" is. It's not always evident.

Thus, I recommend the reediting of the rules, in order for them to explain clearly what they are about. This, should comply with the first statement, it should be the community who decides how.

AS FOR ADMINS:

There should be ONLY one rank of admin, and ONLY one rank of moderator, what's the point of hirearchy? If you admin the forums, you're a moderator, if you moderate the server, you're an admin. If you do both, you're both, and that's it.

Admin ranks bring more confusion, power struggle, and general conflict that we need. The admin rank should not be seen as a position of power over players. Admins should never be over the people.

And on the topic of selecting/impeaching, that should be done by the community vote, too. Maybe limiting impeaching after the first month of that admin, and if there's less than 5, done as so a replacement is inmediatly added upon impeachment.
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Kam makes some great points. I think I have to say the idea of a democracy would work best in my mind. As for admins, what you say does make sense. I dunno if it's worth changing though.
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What we need is a nice good COMMUNIST REVOLUTION.



With communism, everybody will contribute to the group, and everybody will be peaceful. The all powerful Stingwrai- I mean geowulf has left us, and now we are arguing. Comrades I propose we end this bickering and bring about a golden age of Aeria. Join me in making a paradise....
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Uberman7788 wrote:
What we need is a nice good COMMUNIST REVOLUTION.



With communism, everybody will contribute to the group, and everybody will be peaceful. The all powerful Stingwrai- I mean geowulf has left us, and now we are arguing. Comrades I propose we end this bickering and bring about a golden age of Aeria. Join me in making a paradise....

I don't see the point of this post, to be honest.
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Kruggly wrote:
Uberman7788 wrote:
What we need is a nice good COMMUNIST REVOLUTION.



With communism, everybody will contribute to the group, and everybody will be peaceful. The all powerful Stingwrai- I mean geowulf has left us, and now we are arguing. Comrades I propose we end this bickering and bring about a golden age of Aeria. Join me in making a paradise....

I don't see the point of this post, to be honest.


Same here.
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Uberman7788 wrote:
What we need is a nice good COMMUNIST REVOLUTION.



With communism, everybody will contribute to the group, and everybody will be peaceful. The all powerful Stingwrai- I mean geowulf has left us, and now we are arguing. Comrades I propose we end this bickering and bring about a golden age of Aeria. Join me in making a paradise....

Read animal farm if you haven't already, it'll riddle your socialist ideals full of holes and will show you, as you've probably seen before, that socialism doesn't work.

I'd also like to point out any communist rebellion can't match up to a ban hammer.
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I have.


Anarcho-communism is the key, no government to sip whiskey and change the commandments of animal farm
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Rutabega wrote:
Uberman7788 wrote:
What we need is a nice good COMMUNIST REVOLUTION.



With communism, everybody will contribute to the group, and everybody will be peaceful. The all powerful Stingwrai- I mean geowulf has left us, and now we are arguing. Comrades I propose we end this bickering and bring about a golden age of Aeria. Join me in making a paradise....

Read animal farm if you haven't already, it'll riddle your socialist ideals full of holes and will show you, as you've probably seen before, that socialism doesn't work.

I'd also like to point out any communist rebellion can't match up to a ban hammer.

Fuckin' love that book. Thank god you brought that up.
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Like I said, without Leninism or Stalinism, in fact, a no government communist society would be the best form of life.
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HAHAHAH!

STALIN

Oh god that made me laugh. Stalin was a murdering bastard. Nobody wants him. Lenin and Trotsky I have no quarrel with.
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Uberman7788 wrote:
Like I said, without Leninism or Stalinism, in fact, a no government communist society would be the best form of life.
1980's police state is better than all forms of government.
You will agree with me when I make it law.
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V for Vendetta government. English dictatorship, hilarious htough
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Gambit wrote:
V for Vendetta government. English dictatorship, hilarious htough
I will ban masks, suits of armor, and bulletproof ideas.
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Uh, are we done with this thread?
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Uberman7788 wrote:
I have.


Anarcho-communism is the key, no government to sip whiskey and change the commandments of animal farm

Final point. Anything to do with anarchy is totally the worst way of life considering everyone would loot your house, burn down everything and go batshit crazy in a way only a skinheaded neo-nazi on cocain could. You wouldn't have a computer, you'd just have it all stolen.

If you want to bleed out on your floor with a knife in your gut, while you watch all your stuff be thrown out your windows - then go have your anarchy.
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Oh, and have your house seized by the government. And to be most likely shot for saying things that the government didn't like.
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And if the thread owner thinks this thread is done with, the admins will lock it.
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